MEZZALUNACY ~ AN INTERVIEW WITH O.J. SIMPSON
or: If I Did It, If I Didn’t Do It ~ What’s the Diff?
(In this EXCLUSIVE “Out Of My Mind” special report, O.J. Simpson agreed to sit down with yours truly and discuss his controversial book entitled, O.J. Simpson: If I Did It, Here’s How It Happened. The rights to this book have already been snatched away by Fred Goldman, but the Juice just can’t help talking. Now he’s talking to me. Of course, “Out Of My Mind” has long held that free speech is the cornerstone of any democracy and I feel that to disallow O.J. Simpson a chance to speak about his homicidal escapades simply feeds into the current trend to ban “unpopular” or so-called “hate” speech. Plus, if Fred Goldman can exploit this thing, so can I.)
JML: O.J. Simpson. Thank you for joining me here today.
A: Thanks for having me. Nobody wants to talk to the Juice no more so I’m glad to be here. Do I get paid for this?
JML: No.
OJ: Do I get a gratuity?
JML: I’ll send a check in your name to “Parents of Murdered Children.”
OJ: Hahahaha. Zing!
JML: I guess it was inevitable that your new book would meet with opposition. A dozen Fox affiliate stations had already backed out of airing your interview and I think lawyers were lining up for a crack at any book royalties. Then here comes Fred Goldman and snarfs it right out of your hands.
OJ: Well, I got lawyers, too, and they don’t care squat about what some old white judge say. Shoot, I get over 400 large every year just from my football pension. That’s almost half a million dead presidents every year for the rest of my life, and that’s my money ~ Goldman can’t touch it.
JML: How much were you ordered to pay them?
OJ: The Goldmans? Who cares? Haha. Thirty, forty million? A hundred million, two hundred … eight hundred million? You know how much money I’ve paid out to Fred Goldman?
JML: No.
OJ: Squat. Hahahaha. Nada, zilch, zero, goose egg, dick, nothing hahahaha. Do you know how much I will ever pay to Fred Goldman?
JML: No.
OJ: Please refer to my previous answer. Hahahaha, you know?
JML: You were getting a lot of press from the Fox interview last year. They were planning two nights during sweeps, the Juice out there with a book talking about how he would have handled the killing of Nicole and Goldman. You were set to make a lot of money until Rupert Murdoch stepped in and pulled the plug.
OJ: Sales had been strong. My book made the top 20 on Amazon.com, but after Murdoch stuck his ugly Aussie nose into it, it dropped past number 50 and was gone, Jack. That’s not fair. I’ve been pimped for 13 years. Everyone’s made money on me. Don’t you think it’s about my turn to make a little money off the whole thing? I’ll tell you this, Murdoch needs to worry more about Murdoch and less about O.J. Be a shame the man wake up one day and find one’a them big ol’ Crocodile Dundee knives sticking out of what’s left of his face.
JML: Dude, easy …
OJ: I’m just sayin’. Don’t nobody wanna cut ol’ Juice any slack just because of one little indiscretion he may or may not have made way back when …
JML: Indiscretion? You mean killing two people?
OJ: Naw, man … I mean dropping that effing glove. White people be gettin’ away with killing black people for years, but let a black man kill one skinny white woman or some white bus boy, and they be all over him. You know, I ain’t hardly killed nobody in years. But see, the media don’t give me credit for that.
JML: There are some who feel you have a lot of anger.
OJ: Hey, I ain’t got as much anger as Mel Gibson … or that Kramer dude. But that’s okay cause they both white. I’ll tell you this ~ if that Kramer cat had been holding a knife instead of a microphone, he might of been heading for the border in a white Bronco with a disguise on his lap, too, cause he’d of sure left two dead Negroes up in that comedy club balcony …
JML: Hey, hey … please, let’s not … O.J., please …
OJ: I’m just sayin’.
JML: We want to keep this interview on a certain plane, a certain level of civility. Please. Let’s not set off any racial stink bombs, okay?
OJ: How you gonna talk about O.J. without putting race in it? It never was about O.J. anyway … or Nicole or Ron Goldman … it was about who would win that trial ~ black people or white people. And the black people sure won it, too. Yeah, score! I wanted to do one of them infield jigs, but Cochran and Shapiro told me I had to act cool behind it. You know, humble, hahahaha … which was kind’a hard for me, hahahahaha, you know?
JML: You were acquitted of murder in your criminal trial but later found guilty in civil court.
OJ: I was found liable, not guilty. And you tell me how one court could find me innocent and then turn around and another court find me liable? What they gonna do, keep recirculating a black man through the System until they get the result they want? Naw, man, that’s racism. Yeah, they call it the justice system cause that’s all you see there ~ just us, hahahaha.
JML: I liked that joke better when Richard Pryor did it.
OJ: Well, Pryor’s a comedian. I’m a kill …. uh, I’m a football player. Was. Now I’m a golfer.
JML: Okay. Well, the premise of your book is how you would have killed Nicole and Goldman if you had it to do over again …
OJ: Naw … it’s about how I would have killed them if I had killed them. And that’s a pretty big “if” … if I was gonna kill them, then how I would of done it ~ that’s what the book about.
JML: Okay … if. How would you have done it, if you had done it?
OJ: Wouldn’t have left no bloody glove out back of the house for one thing, I’ll tell you that for free, hahaha. Boy, that was sloppy, haha. Penalty on the play, you know what I’m sayin’ hahahaha.
JML: Dude, how did you even come up with the idea to write this book anyway? Where did this even come from?
OJ: Well, I was thinking about writing a book, you know. Everybody be writing books now. And they say you should always write about what you know, so …
JML: But why not just confess? You can’t be tried again, Goldmans already got their judgment. Why not just man up and tell what happened?
OJ: Well, I thought about that. Cause you know, like you said, law can’t touch me. But I got kids. And I can’t have them hear me say those words. Not so much the one, what’s-his-name, my son, I forget his name … but that Sydney ~ my Lord, she so much like her mama now anyway, sometimes I have to hold myself back from going after her with a carving knife, you know, hahahaha … maybe get her with a chain saw, you know, hahahaha, shut up that whining little Nicole-looking mouth of hers. But, naw … I tell her I cut her mama’s throat, she’d never let me live it down. She’s hard enough to get along with now, I don’t need to hear that every waking hour of my live, hahahaha ~ “You killed my mama! You killed my mama!” Hahahaha, broken record, you know what I mean?
JML: Okay. So … then how would you have killed Nicole and Ron Goldman … if you had killed them?
OJ: Well, first of all, I wouldn’t have killed Goldman at all. I didn’t even know the boy. He was just in the wrong place at the wrong time, you understand? At least not at first I wouldn’t have. Now, though, after 13 years of listening to Fred Goldman and that nappy-headed daughter of his calling me a murderer every time somebody sticks a camera in they face, I might would just kill Ron now for spite, you know, hahahaha. Kill his nappy-headed little sister, too, hahaha, you know what I’m sayin’? That’d piss ol’ Fred off, wouldn’t it? Hahaha …
JML: So how would you have killed Nicole and Goldman … if you had killed them?
OJ: Well, I’d have got an alibi first thing. That spur of the moment homicide thing don’t work all that well, you know, hahaha. One of the biggest mistakes I made was not thinking it through, not planning it better. I mean, you know, not that I did it. But the biggest mistake that the killer made … he should have planned it better.
JML: What kind of alibi?
OJ: Oh, I dunno. Get one of my foxy white women to say I was with them all night. They’s plenty of white women can’t keep they hands off me. Do anything I tell them to. Or else … hahahah. Get it … or else. Hahahaha.
JML: Yeah, that’s funny.
OJ: Anyway, I think I would have waited for Goldman to leave. That’s a lot harder than you might think, taking down two people who are younger like that. Or at least, I imagine it would be harder. And that Goldman boy was pretty strong. Only reason he caught it was because I just got … or I should say, the killer probably just got jealous. Probably thought it was one of Nicole’s boyfriends.
JML: If the killer was a stranger, why would he care if Nicole had a boyfriend?
OJ: Well … uh … Hah! You got me! Hahahahaha. Okay, maybe if the killer knew her? Maybe was dating her?
JML: Would you have used a knife if it had been you, or some other method?
OJ: Oh, a knife, definitely. I love a knife for killing … or I mean, I would imagine I’d love a knife for killing. Very hands on, you know, hahahaha. Up close and personal, you know what I’m sayin’, hahaha. Yeah, knife’s good. Just gotta be careful you don’t cut your own self, bleed all over everything. Bleed all over your gloves, hahaha.
JML: You’re a weird guy, O.J.
OJ: I’m a black man. You just can’t face that.
JML: I know a lot of black people and they’re none of them like you.
OJ: You trying to start something?
JML: Uh, no … I …
OJ: You sound like you’re trying to start something.
JML: No … no, no. I don’t mean any disrespect.
OJ: Well, I should hope not. You’re not stupid.
JML: Well, I try not to be anyway. Back a few years ago you said you had actually assembled a team to search for the quote-unquote real killer, and even offered a reward leading to an arrest. How’s that going?
OJ: Oh, uh … well, we still looking, hahahaha. We ain’t found nobody yet, but we still looking, you know? Hahaha, yeah.
JML: Okay, I have a list here of some other people. I’ll read off their names and you tell me how you would kill them.
OJ: Oh, like a game? Like free association?
JML: Yeah, like that. Okay … Fred Goldman?
OJ: Old man Goldman? A knife, man, right in the throat. First, though, I’d cut off that dumb moustache. You ever see that thing? What’s he thinking, you know? Hahaha. Be alright maybe if it was the 1800s, know what I’m sayin’, hahahaha. Yeah, I’d do him with my knife. Throw in his big-mouth daughter, too, for free.
JML: Marsha Clark?
OJ: Oh, that would be fun. Knife. Might even still set that up. But you didn’t hear it me from me, wink wink, hahahaha.
JML: Judge Ito?
OJ: Knife.
JML: Rupert Murdoch?
OJ: Knife, mate, hahahaha.
JML: So, you wouldn’t use anything but a knife? No gun, no poison, no bare hands, just a knife?
OJ: Hey, stay with what you know, hahahaha. We just talking about a little harmless killing, not re-inventing the wheel.
JML: Okay. George Bush?
OJ: I like George Bush. I think he’s a decent guy, just got wrapped up in something he couldn’t control. I can relate to that. No, I like ol’ George Bush and would hate to see any harm come to him, but yeah, a knife. Maybe in the heart, make it quick.
JML: Me?
OJ: A knife, man, easy. Lean right over, rake it across your jugular while you still talking. You be dead five minutes before you even know what I did.
JML: O.J., that’s … it was my understanding you would not be armed …
OJ: For all you know, I’ve already done it, only you hadn’t realized it yet, hahahaha.
JML: O.J., you know … I just remembered … I think I left the water running in the car. Uh, I mean, I think I left the motor running on the iron. No, I have a doctor’s appointment. Yeah, I have a doctor’s appointment and it’s really hard to get in to see this guy so I’m going to have to wrap this up now, okay?
OJ: Awww, that’s too bad. I was just getting warmed up.
JML: Yeah, no, that’s … I’ sorry, I just forgot I had this thing, you know …
OJ: Yeah, yeah, that’s alright, I know you busy. I appreciate you having me here and everybody read my book, O.J. Simpson: If I Did It, Here’s How It Happened … even if I ain’t getting no money for it now, still read it cause it feeds my ego.
JML: And we wish you a lot of success with that, too.
OJ: Hey, maybe you can play Goldman in the movie version.
JML: Ron Goldman? I’m a little too old for …
OJ: Naw, man … Fred ~ you can play ol’ Fred Goldman. Cause I’m liking that moustache you got there.
JML: That’s nice, thank you, but I’m thinking of shaving it.
OJ: Don’t shave it too quick, boy, cause this baby’s going global. O.J. ain’t done with his story yet, hahahaha, you know what I mean?
JML: No..
OJ: A’ight then …
JML: Okay. But I really do have to run now. Literally. Bye.
OJ: Bye … (man, he run fast for a fat boy …)